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The Barn Owl Trust's leaflet on sexing barn owls: [link]
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I think that in the past I may have said something about putting together a tutorial of some sort because people keep asking me things (mostly about owls). This is the first part of it. I started out with this part not because anyone's actually asked me about it or because it has anything to do with how to draw, but because media tends to get this wrong. Movies get it wrong, literature gets it wrong, the T-shirt catalog in front of me right now got it wrong. And also because I wanted to draw something about the snowy owl that played Hedwig being a male for a long time now.

Anyway, before I start on the rest, is there anything at all, about any subject, that anyone wants to make sure I include (That you can NOT already find a tutorial for)?
Also, do you think that it would be more accessible if I uploaded it into parts (like this one) or combined everything into one or two big tutorials? (Or did both?)
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KatrueYumeNikki Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
WHAT THE
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asher-050100 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol, dat Nyra :rofl:
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guadisaves02 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2014  Student General Artist
the book also says that Nyra is white, and the official book artwork also describe her as white, so it is similar in some ways i guess :P but you're right of the coloration :meow:
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Earldense Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014
I don't think the book says she's white, it just says she has a large, moonlike face. The artwork in the books is sometimes inaccurate and inconsistent (Kludd starts out with a brown stomach and several spots, then later he's painted as almost solid white with no spots), so I wouldn't consider it cannon. Besides, she's not solid white in the artwork anyway, she looks normal except that she has no spots.
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WindWing101 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014
Oh my gosh, thank you for doing this! The Legend of the Guardians movie was frustrating for me, especially since the book it was based off of was by an author who actually payed attention to these details...

Obviously the movie did it so you could more easily tell males and females apart, but wouldn't voices be enough? Why do girls always have to be smaller and petite? In fact, most bird species I know of the sexes are the same size, or the female is larger (Raptors)... In insects that's often the case too. I remember reading someone's comment saying "Well in general males are always bigger and stronger." Sure, that's true for the most average male mammals, but I don't like how our society is having it incorporated with species that don't follow that rule. Heck, insects rule the whole planet and greatly outnumber mammals, and their biology is completely different. Even if it is just a kid's movie, it seems to rub off. I was at a wolf sanctuary place, and the head guy asked "What do we call the lowest ranking wolves?" and some little boy, maybe around 5, was like "Females."

I was like, "The hell your parents teaching you?" o.o'

Anyways, sorry for this long rant, I'm really glad you made a guide. Just standing up for animals and women's rights I guess xD
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Earldense Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014
You're welcome, I guess xP
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:iconwindwing101:
WindWing101 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014
xD No problem.
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:iconscratch212:
scratch212 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Student Digital Artist
nyra: im a guy Troll 
metal beak: A Real o.O 
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xXLoki-FangirlXx Featured By Owner May 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nyra's face says it all! XD poor Metal Beak. XD
thank you for the info. Lol wow idiot know that females were bigger than males. Yay is females are stronger! Anyways yeah that cracked me up. Also I so didn't know tha headwig was a male.
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:iconjdcorc:
Jdcorc Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Every time I try and look at Nyra's face..

Nyra: I'm a guy *epic troll face*

Me: *Starts cracking up like an insane person in an asylum*
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:iconkittykat32456:
kittykat32456 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014
Im a guy.Problem? 
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RandomHyenaLOL Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Love the information source, and I have to agree. I love Nyra's face xD 
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Earldense Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014
Thank you :D
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Celestial-Rainstorm Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Nyra you troll.


And yep! The Hedwig used in the movies was male, because I read somewhere little Danny wasn't strong enough to hold a full-grown female.

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:iconearldense:
Earldense Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2013
I can understand that, Snowies are really huge.
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:iconcelestial-rainstorm:
Celestial-Rainstorm Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah! I'm studying to be a raptor conservationist, so I've got to have a good arm to handle those girls! I both dread and look forward to the day I get to handle a female Eurasian Eagle owl...
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HootowlEffenKiel Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Student Writer
Nyra's face... LOL xD
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amandadragoness115 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2013  Student Digital Artist
LOL nyra XD
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:iconsnowharmony:
SnowHarmony Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013  Student Digital Artist
heh! Nyra is born a natural white barn owl. I think her father was a snowy? and mother a barn owl?
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Earldense Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013
Snowies and Barn Owls can't reproduce, but then I wouldn't put it past the creators to take such generous artistic liberties (there's already interspecies relations). She doesn't look half Snowy at all, though. 
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SnowHarmony Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Meh. My theory. Just an idea of how that happened.
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Nom-nom-city6 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013
In the books of Harry Potter Hedwig is female, but in the movies Hedwig is played by 3 different male snowy owls.
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Earldense Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013
That's the point.
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Feather-Of-Maat Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2013
I'm not the only one who noticed this! :D It's funny, because I only just finished watching the "Legend of the Guardians" movie (but apparently the books are better. Unfortunately my library has one copy of each book and a looong waiting list for each.) Anyway, the other thing that kept bothering me in the "Legend...Guardians" film is that the owls were moving their eyes. Owls can't move their eyes--they're fixed in their sockets!
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Earldense Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2013
Well, moving their eyes is more artistic license. You need them to move their eyes to make certain facial expressions.
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VictoriaAscencio Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol xDDD
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Hawkfur101 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Another thing the LOTG Movie got wrong:
Barn Owls have completley black eyes.
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Earldense Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013
Well, dark brown or gray eyes. Sooty Owls can have dark red eyes. But yeah, the yellow/orange/blueish green eyes on Barn Owls looked really weird and out of place.
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Whitewingedfox Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013
Soren's an old female

how quaint
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xXRekaTheDogXx Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
lol the end XD
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Snak3-Charm3r Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
the look on Nyra's face kinda reminds me of Peter Griffin's troll face when Lois wondered if sodomy was illegal when they converted to Judaism.
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PaperOwls Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
YES.
This part of Nyra always irked the heck out of me!
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:iconashthetyto:
ashthetyto Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe Nyra is an albino (?)
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:iconearldense:
Earldense Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013
He's obviously not.
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ashthetyto Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Fair enough ;)
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BlackShadow6202 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
XDDD Oh...oh gosh....poor Metal Beak....

or maybe his mate's just piebald? O.o
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Earldense Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013
But then she wouldn't have the light gray markings on her back, she'd either be solid white or still have patches of her dark coloring showing, wouldn't she?
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BlackShadow6202 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
...uhh...she's albino? XDDD

Or...or she is a male owl who got a sex change. XDDD
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Earldense Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013
The latter is the best explanation I think.
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BlackShadow6202 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
XDD agreed. XD poor Metalbeak...
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TensaiSaiyan Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
That last part that says "I'm a guy" is hilarious.
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ashthetyto Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think I died laughing, LOL! ;))
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LydeaBlaze Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Very infromative and i like the last part. Nyra's face is funny. XD
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Earldense Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
Thanks :P
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Foxfire5634 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I'm not sure if someone already said this, but Nyra in the movie is pale because she bleached her feathers. I'm not sure if she actually bleached them or not, but Grimble explained that high ranking officers bleached their feathers to signify purity. I think that's why she is so pale.
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Earldense Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012
If high-ranking officials bleached their feathers, why wasn't Metal Beak bleached? Besides, you can see light gray markings on her back and tiny black spots on her chest, if Nyra was bleached instead of naturally white, those would be covered up.
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Foxfire5634 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Hm, you're right. If only the movie was better made. The graphics were really beautiful but... the story. ;^;
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Liz-Rosethorn Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Now I want to go watch owl movies >.< and clips of real owls to try and distinguish
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ZebraFactory Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
very interesting information. I love learning more X3 thanks for giving me some information! i was all into the writing that i didnt realize the picture at the bottom XD!!!!! THAT IS SO FUNNY!
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Earldense Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Thank you :)
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